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Benz
02-01-2008, 03:24 PM
Hi guys, um what is the cheapest rock crawler out on the market today??

master_of_desaster
02-01-2008, 05:15 PM
well theres only 2 crawlers. the pti goliath and the scorpion. im not sure on the price of the pti machine, but the axial is as follows:

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRXH6&P=ML

but i think for the money go for the axial. i know what your thinking...what about the wheely king or the tlt or the clodbuster and txt?! well those arent specific crawlers. they are monster trucks. the cheapest of all i have named is tlt, then the clodbuster, then the pti goliath, then the wheely king, then the txt. so i hope this helps and if you got any other questions about my comment let me know!

Benz
02-01-2008, 06:29 PM
well theres only 2 crawlers. the pti goliath and the scorpion. im not sure on the price of the pti machine, but the axial is as follows:

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRXH6&P=ML

but i think for the money go for the axial. i know what your thinking...what about the wheely king or the tlt or the clodbuster and txt?! well those arent specific crawlers. they are monster trucks. the cheapest of all i have named is tlt, then the clodbuster, then the pti goliath, then the wheely king, then the txt. so i hope this helps and if you got any other questions about my comment let me know!

Ok thanks I really want to buy the cheapest but strongest rock crawler there is :) :)

master_of_desaster
02-01-2008, 08:12 PM
well then cheapest wouldnt be the scorpion, so i think the TLT would be the way to go

Mad Racer
02-02-2008, 09:57 PM
The cheapest will be a scorpion, but you can get Axial's newest crawler that is the Rock Racer, which is a RTR and under a good price.

Benz
02-03-2008, 12:36 PM
ok cool do you have a website that I can look at??

master_of_desaster
02-05-2008, 05:59 PM
tlt's are under $130

Benz
02-06-2008, 09:54 AM
ok cool do have a picture that i can look at??

master_of_desaster
02-06-2008, 05:23 PM
well i guess they discontinued them at towerhobbies but i did find this truck.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXNXA4&P=0

Benz
02-07-2008, 10:20 AM
great thanks a lot man

master_of_desaster
02-07-2008, 05:41 PM
no prob bud anything to get another crawler up in here!!!

Mad Racer
02-07-2008, 07:30 PM
ok cool do you have a website that I can look at??
Opps, sorry about the delay to make a reply to you. Here it is:

http://www.tcscrawlers.com/Pre-Order-Axial-AX10-Scorpion-RTR-p-16753.html

It's very nice and not at a high price. Fully RTR and don't need to build anything.

master_of_desaster
02-07-2008, 10:56 PM
the axial rock racer is also a good starting truck. good option racer!

Mad Racer
02-07-2008, 11:25 PM
Yeah, the Rock Racer is good to start off with first. It's a good decent crawler.

Benz
02-11-2008, 09:48 AM
thanks alot guys. i think that this will help me chose what rock crawler. Oh i almost forgot tomorrow is my 15th birthday.:D :D :D :)

Benz
02-14-2008, 10:01 AM
hey guys i have a question about the hpi racing wheelie king, does it really work good as a rock crawler??

JasonC
02-14-2008, 01:56 PM
The Wheely King axles are nice to use and HPI has a crawler conversion kit on the way...you can see it in the news forum.

I have three crawlers that run Wheely King axles and 1 that runs Axial axles.

I'm in the process of building a 2nd Axial based crawler.

The ring and pinion will swap between the Axial and Wheely King.

Benz
02-14-2008, 03:29 PM
ok that sounds cool

Benz
02-15-2008, 02:23 PM
have u guys ever heard of the crawler king. if u have do u think that it is a good rock crawler or not??:confused: :D :D

master_of_desaster
02-16-2008, 07:00 PM
nope...got any pics?

Benz
02-18-2008, 02:28 PM
no but there is a guy that has one as soon as i find his for u guys ok??

Benz
02-18-2008, 02:42 PM
the guys name is jason c and he posted a thread the durability standred has been set and he has one. u should take a look at it.

master_of_desaster
02-18-2008, 03:42 PM
ohhhhhhhhh that crawler king....yeah i have great knowledge on it. yeah ralph is a beast and we all want to take him away from jason! as you have seen in the durability test vid, he's abusive. lol

Benz
02-19-2008, 10:13 AM
i know tell me about it. but at least is ok right??

Benz
02-27-2008, 09:51 AM
hey y'all any one ever heard of New Bright for rc cars and crawlers??

JeLeAk
02-27-2008, 03:45 PM
most builders just use new bright bodies for scale looks, some people use that really big 1/5th scale jeep to crawl but i personally wouldnt after seeing it in action

Benz
02-27-2008, 05:29 PM
I have that one and i dont like it to much

master_of_desaster
02-27-2008, 10:43 PM
they are good entry get-your-toes-wet trucks...but not what most hobby grade guys are after especailly after having a traxxas truck or hpi truck or even a team associated truck

Benz
02-27-2008, 11:24 PM
My new bright jeep rock crawler goes in reverse when i have the trigger in the stop position and i can't figure out but it is. It really is bugging because at first i thought the battery was low on juice but when i put a different battery in that had more juice than the other one it still did that. It is starting to piss me off. Also the rear shock mounts on the rear axle broke off so i don't have any shocks for the rear. The front shocks are still good though. I really need help in trying to figure out it goes in reverse when i don't want it to. So do you guys have any ideas if so, PLEASE HELP ME???:confused: :confused: :( :(

master_of_desaster
02-28-2008, 05:46 PM
i think there are throttle adjustments on the radio you can use to get the right throttle control...that might be outta whack or in ned of adjusting. i personally dont own one though.

Benz
02-29-2008, 09:53 AM
i think there are throttle adjustments on the radio you can use to get the right throttle control...that might be outta whack or in ned of adjusting. i personally dont own one though.

i can't adjust the throttle for it so i don't what to do.:( :( :( :(

Benz
03-03-2008, 11:33 AM
one question about the TLT who makes it???:confused: :confused: :confused:

JeLeAk
03-03-2008, 04:11 PM
one question about the TLT who makes it???:confused: :confused: :confused:

Tamiya made the TLT-1 Rock Buster and TLT-1 Max Climber both basied on the same chassis, they are discontinued right now tho

there will be a new out of the box crawler coming out soon with a brand new chassis CR-01 the box name is Toyota Land Cruiser 40

i would look into that but it most likely will not be the cheapest crawler, the cheapest crawler is going to be somthing on e-bay that someone doesnt want anymore

Benz
03-03-2008, 05:11 PM
when it does let me know on this thread or pm me, ok???:D :D :cool: :cool:

focus07
03-03-2008, 10:03 PM
If ya want the least expensive, I would go with the Axial Rock Racer RTR or the Wheely King RTR, just my 2 cents. And then upgrade when ya can afford it.

Benz
03-04-2008, 10:24 AM
If ya want the least expensive, I would go with the Axial Rock Racer RTR or the Wheely King RTR, just my 2 cents. And then upgrade when ya can afford it.

yeah that is what everyone is telling me to but i want to know what people have and how much they like. you know what i mean??:) :) :cool: :cool:

focus07
03-04-2008, 11:54 PM
I have a Scorpion. I spent about 500 dollars that included the kit, motor, esc, radio and servo. 230 for the kit, 150 for Spectrum radio, 30 for motor, 40 for servo and 50 for esc. I already had battery packs and a charger and paint.

focus07
03-04-2008, 11:56 PM
The kit goes together very nicely. Cant wait to finish it. And drive it!

Benz
03-05-2008, 10:00 AM
The kit goes together very nicely. Cant wait to finish it. And drive it!

tell how it works out for you because if it is good then i might do the same thing.

JeLeAk
03-05-2008, 04:14 PM
i picked up a used txt-1 for $300 RTR and it works just fine with various free mods done to it

i also had gotten a used clod before and spent maybe $300-400 on it and it was so good of a crawler i had gotten bored of it and sold it, because it would crawl over everything i put in front of it with little effort

Benz
03-05-2008, 07:39 PM
does anybody know if the E-Maxx would make a good rock crawler or not???:confused: :confused: :confused:

master_of_desaster
03-05-2008, 11:06 PM
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JeLeAk
03-06-2008, 01:12 AM
does anybody know if the E-Maxx would make a good rock crawler or not???:confused: :confused: :confused:

it can be done, but its not a very good one

Benz
03-06-2008, 03:54 PM
it can be done, but its not a very good one

oh well then i won't do it.

focus07
03-07-2008, 01:24 PM
The IFS suspension isnt really designed for rock crawling. Great for racing and running in the street or backyard but not on rocks. It can be done like said before but its better to have the axles and suspension you see on the clodbuster, scorpion, and wheely king, Hi-lift, and the upcoming CR-01.

Benz
03-07-2008, 06:53 PM
The IFS suspension isnt really designed for rock crawling. Great for racing and running in the street or backyard but not on rocks. It can be done like said before but its better to have the axles and suspension you see on the clodbuster, scorpion, and wheely king, Hi-lift, and the upcoming CR-01.

okay cool. :cool: :cool: :cool:

master_of_desaster
03-13-2008, 08:52 PM
yeah start yourseld around the axles. your choice of axles depends on your wants and needs

Benz
03-14-2008, 09:38 AM
yeah start yourseld around the axles. your choice of axles depends on your wants and needs

well what kind of axels are there??:confused: :confused: :cool: :cool:

master_of_desaster
03-14-2008, 09:44 PM
axial-http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXTBD8&P=SM

hpi-http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=380003506524&Category=44028&_trksid=p3907.m29

rc4wd-http://rc4wdstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=774
-http://rc4wdstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=60&products_id=488
-http://rc4wdstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=60&products_id=720
-http://rc4wdstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=60&products_id=672

pti racing-http://www.ptiracing.net/product/GRC/crawler_web.html

tamiya-http://cgi.ebay.com/TAMIYA-TLT-1-ALUMINUM-C-HUB-Axle_W0QQitemZ380005357317QQihZ025QQcategoryZ34061 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

that should cover most of the axles out there! lol took me a while to get 'em all rounded up but i got 'em!:D

Benz
03-15-2008, 10:02 PM
okay but do you think that i could take some axles from one of my traxxas trucks or not?????:confused: :confused: :confused:

master_of_desaster
03-16-2008, 12:06 AM
well since the axles of the independent type...unless you got a lot of free time and building skills and tools. i would rocommend getting solid axles from one of the brands i mentioned above...a lot easier and possibly cheaper. i say possibly because i have never done a traxxas rockcrawler.

JeLeAk
03-16-2008, 07:15 AM
okay but do you think that i could take some axles from one of my traxxas trucks or not?????:confused: :confused: :confused:

thats what these guys did http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8540

Benz
03-16-2008, 12:29 PM
well since the axles of the independent type...unless you got a lot of free time and building skills and tools. i would rocommend getting solid axles from one of the brands i mentioned above...a lot easier and possibly cheaper. i say possibly because i have never done a traxxas rockcrawler.

okay cool and i don't have the skills but maybe the tools

Benz
03-16-2008, 12:32 PM
thats what these guys did http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8540

but what should i do about a body and a frame???:confused: :confused: :confused:

JeLeAk
03-17-2008, 08:15 AM
bodies are pretty simple anything works, so what ever looks good to you

and as for a frame do what they did build one, doing a all out crawler based on a maxx is prob going to be too much custom fabrication than you want to do... basically all you would be re-using is the diffs,axles, and tranny and thats about it, ohh yeah and some of the steering

but if you want you could lock the diffs on a stock e-maxx and go at it, nothing says you have to have a solid axle to have fun on the rocks

Benz
03-17-2008, 09:22 AM
bodies are pretty simple anything works, so what ever looks good to you

and as for a frame do what they did build one, doing a all out crawler based on a maxx is prob going to be too much custom fabrication than you want to do... basically all you would be re-using is the diffs,axles, and tranny and thats about it, ohh yeah and some of the steering

but if you want you could lock the diffs on a stock e-maxx and go at it, nothing says you have to have a solid axle to have fun on the rocks

alright that sounds good but i've never made my rc before so i'm going to need a lot of help from you guys

master_of_desaster
03-17-2008, 05:39 PM
but if you want you could lock the diffs on a stock e-maxx and go at it, nothing says you have to have a solid axle to have fun on the rocks


def. a good point anything can work as a rockcrawler. even on-road cars!!:eek: :D :rolleyes: but solid axles are more sought after in the rc crawling world and most desirable.

master_of_desaster
03-17-2008, 05:40 PM
ready to help with what ever and when ever! we got your back!

Benz
03-18-2008, 05:29 PM
ready to help with what ever and when ever! we got your back!

thanks a lot guys and i think that i will take one of my Revos and turn it into a rock crawler.

master_of_desaster
03-18-2008, 06:24 PM
well best of luck! post pics!

Benz
03-19-2008, 11:11 AM
well best of luck! post pics!

yeah sure and um you guys are kind of like my family. i dont have a chasie for so i will have to either buy one or make one for nothing and that might be pretty for me but i will try.

master_of_desaster
03-19-2008, 07:19 PM
well whatever you do, make sure its within your budget and is something that you'll learn from! fun is the key factor in making a crawler!!

Benz
03-19-2008, 08:49 PM
well whatever you do, make sure its within your budget and is something that you'll learn from! fun is the key factor in making a crawler!!

yeah sure but i might take an exiciting truck and turn it into a rock crawler

master_of_desaster
03-19-2008, 10:13 PM
what ever floats your boat and fuels your truck! i think your gunna be fine with your build...no doubt!

Benz
03-20-2008, 03:47 PM
what ever floats your boat and fuels your truck! i think your gunna be fine with your build...no doubt!

i going to ask one of my nieghbers if they could help me.

master_of_desaster
03-20-2008, 04:34 PM
sweet deal man! get advice anyway possible! asking is your best weapon

Benz
03-20-2008, 08:40 PM
sweet deal man! get advice anyway possible! asking is your best weapon

yeah i know and he knows a lot about rc cars

Philderbeast
03-21-2008, 01:50 AM
I tryed everything with my emaxx, including 8 tires. It does not work very well on rocks. The weight distribution is way off and center of gravity is way off also. By the time you lower your CG, you lose valuable ride height. It will scrub every where and scrubbing means you need more traction to move. Gears went way way down, I even flipped the chassis, and tryed to just go backwards once also. Nothing worked as well as I wanted. In order to scale those rock walls, I had to gear it back up, and get a high speed run, and was not always successful. I will still use it for wash outs and creek bed walls, but rocks are too much. If I were you benz, I would look at getting a real crawler and not trying to build one out of a maxx or revo. If you just have to build one, do the right thing and get solid axles from the before mentioned links. I think I may use Wheely King axles on the one I build, but it depends on the internal gear ratios as to what I choose.

Benz
03-21-2008, 09:39 AM
I tryed everything with my emaxx, including 8 tires. It does not work very well on rocks. The weight distribution is way off and center of gravity is way off also. By the time you lower your CG, you lose valuable ride height. It will scrub every where and scrubbing means you need more traction to move. Gears went way way down, I even flipped the chassis, and tryed to just go backwards once also. Nothing worked as well as I wanted. In order to scale those rock walls, I had to gear it back up, and get a high speed run, and was not always successful. I will still use it for wash outs and creek bed walls, but rocks are too much. If I were you benz, I would look at getting a real crawler and not trying to build one out of a maxx or revo. If you just have to build one, do the right thing and get solid axles from the before mentioned links. I think I may use Wheely King axles on the one I build, but it depends on the internal gear ratios as to what I choose.

yeah i decide to build one from nothing insted of building one from one of my exiciting trucks and i'm going to ask my neighber if he would like to help me on this one and i'm pretty sure that he will say yes.:D :D :D :cool: :cool: :cool:

master_of_desaster
03-22-2008, 10:03 PM
you cant disassemble exciting toys can you now?!?! haha

Benz
03-22-2008, 10:08 PM
you cant disassemble exciting toys can you now?!?! haha

well there is one that i can disassemble and that is my new bright rock crawler because it doesn't work

master_of_desaster
03-22-2008, 10:19 PM
well if its not working then its not exciting right? so it doesnt count lol

Benz
03-24-2008, 09:54 AM
well if its not working then its not exciting right? so it doesnt count lol

well it works but not very well so yes it does count

master_of_desaster
03-24-2008, 01:35 PM
haha any progress? started yet?

Benz
03-24-2008, 03:07 PM
haha any progress? started yet?

no because i dont know where to start.

master_of_desaster
03-24-2008, 05:54 PM
ahhh your killing me man!! lol draw up a scetch of what all the stuff you need. your using maxx stuff i presume. WHAT DO YOU NEED TO GET STARTED?!

countryboy4life
03-26-2008, 02:49 AM
If your building it from a maxx front and rear suspension just lock both sides where they can't move!! Lock the diffs is a good choice too!!! :cool:

Benz
03-26-2008, 09:25 AM
If your building it from a maxx front and rear suspension just lock both sides where they can't move!! Lock the diffs is a good choice too!!! :cool:

i may or may not use maxx parts but i might steel some parts from another rc.