dark impact

[Maxx man]

Im about to buy a dark impact kit and would like to know if its a good deal as far as 4wd buggies go. I found all the things I need for and and some of them are pretty nice like a 3000 sized battery a duratrax sport ecs (that can handle 12t) but just a basic radio and a kinda slow servo (22oz in .23 sec) and a traxxas 12t motor for about $315. So just say your opoins and what you have put on it and how it handles and such. thanks!:cool:

[LSXEric]

I like it all but that servo (like u said SLOW and NO tourqe). Just get a faster and toureyer servo!:cool:
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[Maxx man]

I will later down the road when I start raceing but for the time being its just gunna be used for bashing but that will be the first thing I get for it and then probebly a better radio I think futuba makes one thats got a 10 modle memory for a little under $100. Its not a dsm or anything but its better than a cheap RTR radio.

[LSXEric]

I thinka ervo still would be the best first up grage. Nothing fanncy but mabye a 50-70 in. servo, but its ur buggy. What ever makes u happy:cool:
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[Maxx man]

ohh ya that will be the very first upgrade I get but I wont have the money to get one to replace the servo that comes with the radio

[Maxx man]

what kinda stuph do you have in yours? and how does it drive? ohh and one more question how fast is it with what motor you have in it?:rolleyes:

[LSXEric]

Ahh, I dont think I ever said I have one:confused:. I dont. But the titan 12t with the stock ESC and a 7-cell batt. should give u 25-30mph top speed. I cant answer the other questions because I've never driven one. Srry dude.

[Fiero_Man_121]

yeah but i hate the titan its to big for most applications, get a good modified style motor (one you can rebuild) because once that titans' brushes start going on ya, its worthless as a motor.

personally i thing the fireball motor is very good for what your running. the only traxxas thing id suggest is the XL10 esc and the TQ controller, the TQ is a very solid radio

[Maxx man]

I just rememberd a 12t modified motor by epic and you can take it apart and is about $30-$40 do you think its a good idea? cause i dont really want to spend much more but if its really not worth it I might spend spend up to $60

[Maxx man]

do you know a place to get a slipper clutch for it. I would get it at towerhobbies but I cant find it there and the tamiya websight wants $43 for it so if you know pls tell me and posibly a link to the place
thanks!

[Maxx man]

or should i get the reedy flash 12t motor?

[LSXEric]

I like the flash 12t. The flash should give a little more power over the traxxas 12t, but not too much.:cool:
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[LSXEric]

My bad:o I stupid! The traxxas is a 550 size not a 540. I like the flash:cool:
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[Maxx man]

or should i get an epic 12t motor?

[Maxx man]

Is the duratrax streak ecs a good one or should i get the intellspeed ecs? i dont really car about reverse part and the streak dosnt have reverse so if its basically the same minuse the reverse its $20 less and it has a controllable power arc and abs braking on it so i guess its different. what do you think about it
thanks

[LSXEric]

It'll work not the best on the market but it should do right for u.:cool:
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[Maxx man]

wat is problem with it?

[LSXEric]

wat is problem with it?

notins wrong. I type badly.:rolleyes: Let me rephrase that. It will work, BUT its not the best on the market.
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[Maxx man]

leme rephrase that wat makes this not quite as good as others?

[LSXEric]

OKAY THE ESC WILL WORK FINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[Maxx man]

ohh i belive you it will work fine but i dont know wat seperates a good ecs from a bad ecs other than higher turn ability makes the price higher

[LSXEric]

Yea I think battary voltage input max, and how many turns it can take determins it.
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[Maxx man]

just double checking this one can take 12t and 10 cells but the buggie itself is limited to 6cells:( ohh well. how many cells do racers usually have ina car?

[Hyper Rusty]

normally a race has six high capacity cells. i run team orions 3000mah and 3300mah NiMH's. i use the NiMH over NiCd's becuase they don't have a problem with cell memory which will hurt your lap times if your racing. i would have at least three battery packs

[LSXEric]

I run a custom 7 cell pack that my hobbie shop made. Its a 4780mah 8.4 volt batterie. No plugs, just strait solder leads on the pack. I dont know the brand but I love it for racing!:cool:
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[Maxx man]

the one im getting with the buggie is a 4200 minh and will probebly get another couple later down the road but im not gunna race for a little wile and do you guys know were to get a slipper clutch for the tamiya dark impact cause ive looked at tower hobbies and I couldn't find one and to get it from tamiya itself its $43 wich seems a little steep for me but thats just my opion wat do you guys think?

[LSXEric]

I think that would be ur best bet for the slipper clutch. Ask at ur LHS see if they have a better deal.:cool:
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[Maxx man]

I dont if theyll carry it cause both of them dont carry tamiya but ill check soon

[LSXEric]

I just have to say OK! finaly I'm in the a-main O-yea!
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[Maxx man]

what other things should I get for it before racing? I know i need some beter more tunable camber ajustments cause this car uses mounting wholes to change the caber insted of a twisting one

[Maxx man]

sweet good job!

[Maxx man]

what other stuph do i need to get into racing? I know i need a better radio and a sliper clutch but what else?

[LSXEric]

A good driver! Also get some good tires (racing tires), have plenty of vaiours shock oils (for tuning), and get a fast servo when u get the money.:cool:
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[Maxx man]

ok now just need to buy the buggie and practice a hole lot kuz ive never driven a 4wd vehicle execpt once and it was a 1/8 scale monster and those are very diferent driving and i need to get some shock oil
wat about diff oil does the diff oil come with the kit or do i have to get a bottle also
im gunna ask what tires people use at the track but what do you suggest for tires like for hard pact dirt? hard on top with a lose surface? and for soft surrfaces?

[LSXEric]

I thought the dark had ball diffs? :confused:
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[Maxx man]

ohh ya your right oops is that a good thing or a bad thing?

[LSXEric]

Yea they do heres a pic
http://www.tamiyausa.com/images/product/picture.html?category_id=250&product_id=58370&picture_id=gallery_18.jpg
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[LSXEric]

Srry you got first. LOL:D Na the ball diffs are good.

[Maxx man]

cool what kinda tires should i get?
wich kinda tires should i get for a hard surface?
for hard with a dusty surface?
and wat for dusty soft surfaces?
and for clay surfaces?

[LSXEric]

Hold up. What size rims are they?:confused:

[Maxx man]

62/25 up front and 62/35 in the back but i couldnt find inches

[Maxx man]

i would think its 2.2 inch but im not sure

[LSXEric]

Yea I've never looked up the impact tires before. I only look up standered 2.2 from proline.

[LSXEric]

I'm not sure etiher

[Maxx man]

when i get the kit i will mesure it out and ask agian but im pretty sure it is a
2.2 but who knows?:confused:

[LSXEric]

OK if the 2.2s do fit go with the pro-lie hole shots and the inside job for looser conditions.

[Maxx man]

what about for hard and medium. I have no idea ive never raced before

[Maxx man]

It uses the same as other tamiya 1/10 scale buggies if that helps:confused:

[LSXEric]

Use the hole shots for the hard-medium. Inside job for slick-dusty tracks.

[Maxx man]

I went to proline and i think they said it was the otherway around but you may be right.
both are soposed to be for blue groove but you can get one of them in a sticky compound for dusty/loomy tracks but thats just what they said experience beets what they are soppose to be for

[LSXEric]

Well what I put is what I usally run on my B44, but I only run different rear tires since the B44 is rear whell drive. I run the narrow ribs up front for soft and hard.

[Maxx man]

ya the whole shots in the m3 compoud is for soft tracks you were right
my bad

[Maxx man]

I just reallized my fast charger cant charge nimh i dont think do you know of one thats under $70? by chance if you do thanks!

[LSXEric]

Yea this one.
http://www.duratrax.com/caraccys/dtxp4005.html
Its compltely ajustable.

Or this double charger
http://www.duratrax.com/caraccys/dtxp4150.html

I own both. The double one is nice because u can charge two. But the otheer is nice because it is completely ajustable.
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[Maxx man]

is the dark impact comparable to its competitors? (I know i spelled it wrong)
or is it not quite as good as buggies like the b44 or other common buggies in the class? just wondering

[Maxx man]

what do you guys think is better a shaft driven buggie or a belt driven buggie?

[Maxx man]

I just got the kit today! im so happy!

[LSXEric]

Good for u get to wrok! tomorrow.

[OldSchoolRC]

what do you guys think is better a shaft driven buggie or a belt driven buggie?

i prefer shaft driven for off road - less chance of fouling anything up. Congrats on the DI, i think it's an awesome 4wd buggy.

[LSXEric]

Ya shaft off. Belt on. Just how I learnd it.

[Maxx man]

how good is it compared to buggies in its class?

[LSXEric]

Pretty good if not better than most.

[Maxx man]

i just built the rear diff and it gave me alot of trouble it took me maby 45min-an hour:( but the rest shouldnt be that bad:) but i have no idea:confused:
lol i like the smiles :):(:confused::mad::p;):D:o:rolleyes::cool::eek:

[Maxx man]

you really think its that good compared to the comp? i know its $50+ less then most others:confused:

[LSXEric]

Cash isnt eveerything. How u drive is what matters.

[Maxx man]

Ya that would help being able to drive cause ive never driven at a track before the only thing ive done is bash so that will change a little bit but i have to get tires better bateries better charger better servo (probebly the fatuba at tower for $35 with metle gears) and some experience. I do have a half way decent radio it is AM but it has a 10 modle memory and loads of goodies that i need to study up on and it is a computer radio it was about $70so i think it was a good deal but i dont know how reliable it is. its made bye fatuba so wat do you think? cuz its really comfortable but i have no knowldge otherwise its the magnum 2pl

[LSXEric]

Well at the tack ur gonna race at, do a whole bunch of people run crytals. If so I'd go with a 2.4 gig radio. If not what u put should do fine. Also what tires are u gonna run? The holeshots or inside job?

[jonelzoe]

Cash isnt eveerything. How u drive is what matters.

u got a point $$$ gets u there ur the 1 that gets urself even further

[LSXEric]

Amen! Its urself that gets u somewere a little bit of equitment just is a tool.

[Maxx man]

I dont know ive never even seen the track yet so i want to visit it and then Ill find out if my mom ever takes me (just 2 more years till i drive yay!)

[Maxx man]

:(I cant afford a 2.4 gh radio though those are really expensive!

[LSXEric]

Well a spectrum DX2.0 aint bad only like 150$ I love'd it in my old E-maxx.

[LSXEric]

I dont know ive never even seen the track yet so i want to visit it and then Ill find out if my mom ever takes me (just 2 more years till i drive yay!)

I know what u mean my track is like 1/2 of a mile. So I do a nerd thing and tie my wagon with my gear to my bike and ride over there.:D Only 2 years for me also!

[Been 2780]

gosh u guys are lucky u got tracks near you, the closest one to me is like at least 150 miles away in vegas

[Maxx man]

I dont know if its even there it may have been torn down from all i know lol

[Maxx man]

if its still there its still 45min away though:(

[newviennajj]

i know that thing has a lot of moving parts isnt it a belt drive system?

[Maxx man]

no its the durga thats belt driven this one is shaft driven but it still has alot of stuph of stuph on it from what i know but im not sure this is my first kit lol

[Maxx man]

It is alive lol I finally set up the ecs (i got scared of doing it) big mistake lol:eek: I dont know really how it drives becuase I have the stock motor in it because it doesnt come with a slipper and it is dark out so ya i dont know how well it corners at speed but i do know that the turning radius is kinda wide but it should handle well!

[Evil3]

Most 4wd buggies need a lot of room to turn unlike 2wd buggies, but when on power they can out turn 2wd buggies.

As for the way it works in the turn it should be ok, but it is a little soft which will make it a little slower if on a track.

[Maxx man]

wat do you mean bye soft?

[Evil3]

If you are on a track, and the car is too soft it won't be able to carry any conner speed (it isn't a bad thing, I just think about the way things are on the track first).

As for what is soft, it is mostly that the shocks are on the softer side. Although they might be soft, the car will work great over bumps, and when you turn it should give the car a good amount of grip.

[Maxx man]

I think its kinda stiff but thats just me it has medium springs and heavy oil and on ebay i found a slipper for it for $28 instead of $42 so im gunna get that so i can drop my ready flash 12t into it then it will be a little rocket and I can beet my friends rusty lol maby :rolleyes:

[Maxx man]

yay I put the slipper and the ready 12t in and it is a little rockett for a brushed buggie I really like it.

[LSXEric]

Thars great to hear!

[Maxx man]

I painted the shell with tamiya spray cans a black to gray fade.
I cant wait for it to dry up ouside its been raining for almost 3days now