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FrankM
08-21-2007, 03:25 PM
Has anyone experienced the following problem:

I got a new O.S. 18TM for my Revo, broke it in and raced it at the Off-Road Madness event at R/C Madness in Enfield, CT. Engine ran well (although it was hard to restart) and I TQ'd the small-block class with it. After getting home and cleaning the truck in preparation for a photoshoot, it ran well enough for me to re-tune it for the different weather conditions, but then would not run again. It starts and idles, but loses fuel pressure when throttled up. You can see the fuel line dump back out into the tank when it dies. [Note: I have tried different tanks with it to no avail, including a new Kyosho 777 tank]. Now, I suspected an air leak. So, I completely tore down the carb and rebuilt it; everything was fine and the O-rings looked intact. No better. I had a Roto-Start backplate on it, and the one-way doesn't engage the shaft all that well with this setup (the shaft is well recessed on this engine). I removed the backplate and lo and behold, the bearing was toast and the shaft was severely worn, as was the bronze bushing. Okay, I thought, there's my air leak -- not enough crankcase seal to draw in the fuel. I got a new crank and sealed backplate from O.S., installed them, and the same problem occurs. I'm convinced the leak has to be coming from the carb, but this is so uncharacteristic of an O.S. engine; I've never experienced anything like this before -- and all three of my race engines are O.S. I am thinking that somehow air is getting past the slide and its boot. I may just get another carb to try. Any similar experiences/suggestions?

Greg B
08-21-2007, 04:37 PM
Frank,
It sure sounds like you're on the right track. A problem in the carb would be my best guess. This is very untypical of an O.S. engine as you stated.
I hate to mention the obvious but I assume the tank is pressurized and there is no clog in the fuel tank ?

With the tank full of fuel, pull the fuel tube off the carb and turn the engine over. You can then view the pressure by the amount of fuel coming out of the tube.

Another test method that I have been known to use. I remove the carb and Place one finger over the fuel inlet or cap it tight. Place another finger over the bore of the carb. Place your lips, yes lips over the other end of the bore and make a little suction. If there is a leak in the carb, you will know it.


Greg B.

SK3Racin
08-23-2007, 09:08 AM
An easier dip test method, would be to place a long enough length of fuel tubing on the carb, hold your thumb on the base and index finger on the bore, blocking them as tightly as you can. Then simply blow into the fuel tubing.
On the Roto system, if perchance it is a Tiger Drive, a friend of mine uses that as well. When we initially installed it, we had the same problem. The drive gear did not extend far enough in for full engagement and it slipped badly. If you didassemble it, you will see that you can move the drive gear on it's shaft, and place spacers as needed to line it up correctly.
As for the actual problem...my best suggestion, try and see if you can get in touch with Leo M. I know, as far as locals go, he has plenty of experience with that combo.

FrankM
08-23-2007, 02:00 PM
Thanks! Leo is the MAN. LOL

Kevin Trudel
08-23-2007, 04:19 PM
Did you find out what it was? Was Leo able to help?

FrankM
08-23-2007, 07:00 PM
Did you find out what it was? Was Leo able to help?

No, that was pre-emptive; Leo, however, is the man.

SK3Racin
08-24-2007, 09:33 PM
Frank/Greg, just got back from Lester's...thank you guys both, for what you did there....
Rob :)

GregV
08-28-2007, 08:48 PM
Frank/Greg, just got back from Lester's...thank you guys both, for what you did there....
Rob :)


No problem Rob, thanks for helping out the RC community!